Requests to speak and give lectures to various groups and organizations, and at schools, colleges, and universities were sent to Agnes frequently throughout the years. One engagement Agnes accepted this year may have been particularly close to her heart as a student and teacher of public speaking -- to deliver the keynote address to the annual convention of the Western Speech Association (today known as the Western States Communication Association) held November 26 - 28 in Fresno, California. Agnes talked to them primarily about the production of Don Juan in Hell and about her upcoming theatrical venture The Fabulous Redhead. Excerpts from Agnes' speech would be published in the May 1954 edition of the Association's scholarly journal Western Speech, under the title "Staging Don Juan in Hell." What follows here is her speech as Agnes originally wrote it, from a carbon of her own typed copy.
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Speech for the Convention . . . Western Speech Association (Drama Educators)
It seems ages ago that I was in the south of France and received a cable from Charles Laughton and Paul Gregory asking me to join the cast of Don Juan in Hell -- so much sparking water has passed under the bridge since that time. Three years of pioneer trooping covering more than 180,000 miles, five tours in all, starting at Claremont California and carrying us through the English Provinces. Zigzagging back and forth through our country from New Orleans to Toronto Canada, playing in small or large cities, universities and colleges, in high school auditoriums and coliseums, anywhere our four stools, four music stands and four microphones could be comfortably or uncomfortably set up.
The preparation for this production was in itself exhausting, every sentence was analyzed, discussed and mulled over for hours each day until our collective brains were so full of opinions and arguments, pro and con, that many times Charles Laughton would throw up his hands and say "Let's all go home -- Call it a day, I'm too spent to go on."
Every sentence in Shaw's Don Juan in Hell is a challenge to the mind of every person who becomes privately aware of it -- either in reading it, or in seeing it performed, everything Shaw wrote on sex, marriage, politics, war, a hundred other subjects is here, in this brief, most brilliant, most penetrating manifestation of his mind and philosophy. There are themes for a dozen plays in it and the presentation of it offers an opportunity to all those who care about their minds and souls.
To hear it performed (and I think you will bear me out on this) is to come to grips with Shaw's greatness the easy way.
In talking to various drama groups all over the country, they invariably asked me the same questions. Tell us whose idea it was in the first place? Why was it staged in this way? Why did we use microphones and what was the purpose of the music stands and score books. It might interest you to know some of the answers to those questions. It really started from Mr. Laughton's reading. Paul Gregory happened to say one time that it would be wonderful to have four people, a quartette of actors reading contemporary or classical pieces such as Charles does on his tours. This set Charles to thinking and he told Paul that he had an idea. He read Don Juan in Hell to him, which you know is the dream sequence from Man and Superman, and immediately Paul said that it would have to be done. There was much talk over the choosing of a cast. I sometimes wonder how they ever saw me in such a glamorous role for usually I am relegated to those dreary, drab characters that are completely void of charm and beauty, though I must say they are usually the meatiest roles to play -- never-the-less I was so complimented to be their choice for Donna Ana they have my undying gratitude.
As you know Charles Boyer was cast for Don Juan, Sir Cedric Hardwicke for the role of the Statue, my father and that genius of guides, Charles Laughton played the devil. We all accepted without a question. Perhaps the reason we did stemmed from the fact that in this uncertain world there is nothing more uncertain than the career of an actor. His life may shift from comfort to poverty as quickly as the shifting of scenery on a stage. Rarely can he reckon upon an engagement of sufficient duration to give him -- well, even the solace of friends.
I must tell you that we memorized the parts before we started rehearsals. Mr. Boyer had the script for five months for his role is longer than Hamlet. Cedric and I had it a month and dear Charles has been sleeping with it under his pillow for twenty-five years.
Because we believe that the theater is not merely a place of amusement but a living power and should be used for good and not evil -- that it can be a great educational medium -- teaching an audience many things that would ultimately be lost to them -- widening their sympathies and broadening their intellects and sweetening their hearts (and I know I speak for Mr. Laughton and Mr. Gregory in this belief) because we believe in an ideal and in trying to surmount the economic hazard which has been strangling the theater for years -- these were the reasons that spurred the four of us to 'gird our loins' and begin a back-breaking tour. It had to be staged in an economical way or we would have had to give up the whole venture. I am sure those of you who are not familiar with the stupendous costs of production would be aghast at the figures. However, staging it in this manner required only six people in the company, four actors, a stage manager and crewman. Unfortunately we were required to take on as high as eleven men in some cities where the unions controlled the theater -- but we could travel all over the world with this staging giving the audiences good theater with comparatively little expense.
Some critics referred to this example of living theater as a new type of dramatic presentation. Actually it is over three thousand years old. It is the Greek form of presentation. It is a theater of words, their clash and clang -- their projection of ideas -- their power to tell all about everything -- whether you are dealing with winged words or the terse characteristic speech of our latest production of Herman Wouk's Caine Mutiny Court Marshall.
The music stands were used because of the symphonic nature of the piece. Charles recognized the great music in Don Juan and I must say it did our hearts good when Mr. Horowitz and Mr. Rubinstein came backstage and greeted us with "What music, what music!"
The word 'reading' is a misnomer even when the scores are used. They are used as props to heighten a sense of informality. It would be impossible to read them on stage. The glare of the lights would create too many problems. The pages were turned to relieve the eyes of the audience, for with so little movement from the actors the audience could easily become tired of watching them so intently.
Using the microphones served three purposes. You are aware that we played to audiences of from fifteen hundred people to thirteen thousand and that the acoustical qualities of the majority of the auditoriums were not good and Charles wanted everyone to hear every word. In regular theaters the microphones were either turned very low or were completely off. Each one of us had different levels which had to be carefully watched throughout each performance. The microphones served as amplifiers just as in the Greek Theater the masks and hollowed vases threw the voices of the muses out over the vast theater arenas.
The microphone also kept us in place. Because there was so little movement we had to have a good reason for using such small areas in which to work. Otherwise we would have had to move as in an ordinary performance and that would have entailed more props and scenery.
Don Juan in Hell runs over two hours without exits or entrances. There is an arbitrary intermission of only ten minutes so there had to be something on which the actor could rest, hence the four kitchen stools. I can tell you truthfully that I have been ever so much more comfortable on a stage and to be the scenery for my three compatriots was exhausting. It called for rigid discipline. Speaking of discipline I must tell you of an experience I had in Texas . . . . (Tell the Ant Story) . . . . I can fully appreciate the Philippine Ant Torture and feel I could play the role of the victim with real conviction if I was ever offered such a part.
I must tell you another amusing incident that a friend of mine overheard. As you know the roles that I play are pretty frightening and to see me look halfway attractive was rather shocking so I'm not surprised at anything said regarding my appearance -- but two women had trained their binoculars on me -- not opera glasses -- binoculars. My friend who was sitting beside them could not help overhearing their conversation . . . . (Tell the story of the hands) . . . . I'm sure that no one could convince them that it was all theatrical illusion.
So many things happen when a company travels together, amusing and tragic . . . . (Tell the college classmate story).
But it was a happy marriage of four personalities. We respected each other personally and professionally. No one was playing a solo performance. We knew that a certain percentage of people came to see personalities -- that they were curious to see how we looked, how we talked, we were vain as all actors, in thinking this -- but may I say that after the first twenty minutes that curiosity was satisfied and the audience could have yawned and left -- but they stayed to listen to Shaw. That was what we wanted. That was what we believed -- that audiences were hungry for good theater, that they were far above the low average mental level generally credited them by theatrical managers and producers . . . . and that great circles of culture were to be found all over this vast country of ours. This was exciting to me for all along the tour I reveled in the museums. What wonderful things are being done in the smallest towns! What fresh new perspectives in the arts! What hunger to learn! And how gratifying to the actor to be instrumental in some small way in satisfying that hunger. This is what Charles hoped to accomplish when we toured with Don Juan in Hell. And with his genius for acting and directing, his impeccable taste in literature I think he is advancing confidently in the direction of his dreams.
Charles has asked me to read one of the selections that I am going to do on this tour. A favorite writer, James Thurber has gathered some real Americana in his album. I found a chapter with a lovely title "Lavender With A Difference" in which he writes about his mother. She evidently was quite a prankster . . . . .
Learning how to do a thing is the doing of it, and as my father used to say, "I am buying some sandpaper to sandpaper my soul" for the tour is looming ahead, hoping that I can in some way follow in Charles' wake, trying to reach man's heart.
And now, if I may have a few more minutes of your time I'd like to have your reaction to the proposed closing of my one-woman show.
Charles has a very persuasive personality and persistent nature usually getting his way. For some time he has urged me to collect, write and edit material to make a varied and interesting program. This has finally been accomplished after a year of preparation. Some time in January I'll begin a tour with this show entitled The Fabulous Redhead.
Charles and I pondered over the closing of the show. He thought it best to end the program with two speeches of Eve's from Back to Methusalem. I had planned on using Sorry-Wrong Number for the finale but Charles decided this was too violent a note on which to close. Therefore I would like to read this speech of Eve's for you if you would like to hear it.
_______________It seems ages ago that I was in the south of France and received a cable from Charles Laughton and Paul Gregory asking me to join the cast of Don Juan in Hell -- so much sparking water has passed under the bridge since that time. Three years of pioneer trooping covering more than 180,000 miles, five tours in all, starting at Claremont California and carrying us through the English Provinces. Zigzagging back and forth through our country from New Orleans to Toronto Canada, playing in small or large cities, universities and colleges, in high school auditoriums and coliseums, anywhere our four stools, four music stands and four microphones could be comfortably or uncomfortably set up.
The preparation for this production was in itself exhausting, every sentence was analyzed, discussed and mulled over for hours each day until our collective brains were so full of opinions and arguments, pro and con, that many times Charles Laughton would throw up his hands and say "Let's all go home -- Call it a day, I'm too spent to go on."
Every sentence in Shaw's Don Juan in Hell is a challenge to the mind of every person who becomes privately aware of it -- either in reading it, or in seeing it performed, everything Shaw wrote on sex, marriage, politics, war, a hundred other subjects is here, in this brief, most brilliant, most penetrating manifestation of his mind and philosophy. There are themes for a dozen plays in it and the presentation of it offers an opportunity to all those who care about their minds and souls.
To hear it performed (and I think you will bear me out on this) is to come to grips with Shaw's greatness the easy way.
In talking to various drama groups all over the country, they invariably asked me the same questions. Tell us whose idea it was in the first place? Why was it staged in this way? Why did we use microphones and what was the purpose of the music stands and score books. It might interest you to know some of the answers to those questions. It really started from Mr. Laughton's reading. Paul Gregory happened to say one time that it would be wonderful to have four people, a quartette of actors reading contemporary or classical pieces such as Charles does on his tours. This set Charles to thinking and he told Paul that he had an idea. He read Don Juan in Hell to him, which you know is the dream sequence from Man and Superman, and immediately Paul said that it would have to be done. There was much talk over the choosing of a cast. I sometimes wonder how they ever saw me in such a glamorous role for usually I am relegated to those dreary, drab characters that are completely void of charm and beauty, though I must say they are usually the meatiest roles to play -- never-the-less I was so complimented to be their choice for Donna Ana they have my undying gratitude.
As you know Charles Boyer was cast for Don Juan, Sir Cedric Hardwicke for the role of the Statue, my father and that genius of guides, Charles Laughton played the devil. We all accepted without a question. Perhaps the reason we did stemmed from the fact that in this uncertain world there is nothing more uncertain than the career of an actor. His life may shift from comfort to poverty as quickly as the shifting of scenery on a stage. Rarely can he reckon upon an engagement of sufficient duration to give him -- well, even the solace of friends.
I must tell you that we memorized the parts before we started rehearsals. Mr. Boyer had the script for five months for his role is longer than Hamlet. Cedric and I had it a month and dear Charles has been sleeping with it under his pillow for twenty-five years.
Because we believe that the theater is not merely a place of amusement but a living power and should be used for good and not evil -- that it can be a great educational medium -- teaching an audience many things that would ultimately be lost to them -- widening their sympathies and broadening their intellects and sweetening their hearts (and I know I speak for Mr. Laughton and Mr. Gregory in this belief) because we believe in an ideal and in trying to surmount the economic hazard which has been strangling the theater for years -- these were the reasons that spurred the four of us to 'gird our loins' and begin a back-breaking tour. It had to be staged in an economical way or we would have had to give up the whole venture. I am sure those of you who are not familiar with the stupendous costs of production would be aghast at the figures. However, staging it in this manner required only six people in the company, four actors, a stage manager and crewman. Unfortunately we were required to take on as high as eleven men in some cities where the unions controlled the theater -- but we could travel all over the world with this staging giving the audiences good theater with comparatively little expense.
Some critics referred to this example of living theater as a new type of dramatic presentation. Actually it is over three thousand years old. It is the Greek form of presentation. It is a theater of words, their clash and clang -- their projection of ideas -- their power to tell all about everything -- whether you are dealing with winged words or the terse characteristic speech of our latest production of Herman Wouk's Caine Mutiny Court Marshall.
The music stands were used because of the symphonic nature of the piece. Charles recognized the great music in Don Juan and I must say it did our hearts good when Mr. Horowitz and Mr. Rubinstein came backstage and greeted us with "What music, what music!"
The word 'reading' is a misnomer even when the scores are used. They are used as props to heighten a sense of informality. It would be impossible to read them on stage. The glare of the lights would create too many problems. The pages were turned to relieve the eyes of the audience, for with so little movement from the actors the audience could easily become tired of watching them so intently.
Using the microphones served three purposes. You are aware that we played to audiences of from fifteen hundred people to thirteen thousand and that the acoustical qualities of the majority of the auditoriums were not good and Charles wanted everyone to hear every word. In regular theaters the microphones were either turned very low or were completely off. Each one of us had different levels which had to be carefully watched throughout each performance. The microphones served as amplifiers just as in the Greek Theater the masks and hollowed vases threw the voices of the muses out over the vast theater arenas.
The microphone also kept us in place. Because there was so little movement we had to have a good reason for using such small areas in which to work. Otherwise we would have had to move as in an ordinary performance and that would have entailed more props and scenery.
Don Juan in Hell runs over two hours without exits or entrances. There is an arbitrary intermission of only ten minutes so there had to be something on which the actor could rest, hence the four kitchen stools. I can tell you truthfully that I have been ever so much more comfortable on a stage and to be the scenery for my three compatriots was exhausting. It called for rigid discipline. Speaking of discipline I must tell you of an experience I had in Texas . . . . (Tell the Ant Story) . . . . I can fully appreciate the Philippine Ant Torture and feel I could play the role of the victim with real conviction if I was ever offered such a part.
I must tell you another amusing incident that a friend of mine overheard. As you know the roles that I play are pretty frightening and to see me look halfway attractive was rather shocking so I'm not surprised at anything said regarding my appearance -- but two women had trained their binoculars on me -- not opera glasses -- binoculars. My friend who was sitting beside them could not help overhearing their conversation . . . . (Tell the story of the hands) . . . . I'm sure that no one could convince them that it was all theatrical illusion.
So many things happen when a company travels together, amusing and tragic . . . . (Tell the college classmate story).
But it was a happy marriage of four personalities. We respected each other personally and professionally. No one was playing a solo performance. We knew that a certain percentage of people came to see personalities -- that they were curious to see how we looked, how we talked, we were vain as all actors, in thinking this -- but may I say that after the first twenty minutes that curiosity was satisfied and the audience could have yawned and left -- but they stayed to listen to Shaw. That was what we wanted. That was what we believed -- that audiences were hungry for good theater, that they were far above the low average mental level generally credited them by theatrical managers and producers . . . . and that great circles of culture were to be found all over this vast country of ours. This was exciting to me for all along the tour I reveled in the museums. What wonderful things are being done in the smallest towns! What fresh new perspectives in the arts! What hunger to learn! And how gratifying to the actor to be instrumental in some small way in satisfying that hunger. This is what Charles hoped to accomplish when we toured with Don Juan in Hell. And with his genius for acting and directing, his impeccable taste in literature I think he is advancing confidently in the direction of his dreams.
Charles has asked me to read one of the selections that I am going to do on this tour. A favorite writer, James Thurber has gathered some real Americana in his album. I found a chapter with a lovely title "Lavender With A Difference" in which he writes about his mother. She evidently was quite a prankster . . . . .
Learning how to do a thing is the doing of it, and as my father used to say, "I am buying some sandpaper to sandpaper my soul" for the tour is looming ahead, hoping that I can in some way follow in Charles' wake, trying to reach man's heart.
And now, if I may have a few more minutes of your time I'd like to have your reaction to the proposed closing of my one-woman show.
Charles has a very persuasive personality and persistent nature usually getting his way. For some time he has urged me to collect, write and edit material to make a varied and interesting program. This has finally been accomplished after a year of preparation. Some time in January I'll begin a tour with this show entitled The Fabulous Redhead.
Charles and I pondered over the closing of the show. He thought it best to end the program with two speeches of Eve's from Back to Methusalem. I had planned on using Sorry-Wrong Number for the finale but Charles decided this was too violent a note on which to close. Therefore I would like to read this speech of Eve's for you if you would like to hear it.
I do wish that in her writing up of this address for the Western Speech Association, Agnes had included the three stories about the ants, the hands, and the college classmate; they are not present in the published article either. But I have read something regarding the story of the ants; that during one particular show of DJIH a swarm of ants descended upon the cast from the rigging equipment, and they had to continue the performance with ants crawling literally everywhere upon their persons.
One may notice some familiar phrases here, found in other of Agnes' original works such as the essay she wrote and recorded around this same time for broadcast on Edward R. Murrow's radio program This I Believe. When Agnes found a phrase that expressed precisely a viewpoint, she tended to stick with it; no doubt unaware that the information age would catch up with her.
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